Manchester United drew 4-4 with Aston Villa at Old Trafford on Sunday in the Premier League, and fan YouTubers on both sides came away feeling like they had lost. Villa led 2-0 inside five minutes and 4-2 going into stoppage time. United scored twice after the board went up, Patrick Dorgu heading the last one in at the death, and still head into the international break 18th with eight points from ten games.
So nobody got what they wanted. Except, possibly, the directors.
United rooms refuse to celebrate a point
UnitedStand opened by doing something rare for a home channel: apologising to the away side. "Sorry Villa, we've robbed you there at the end." The complaint is Senne Lammens, up for the final corner, backing into Zion Suzuki with no foul given before Dorgu's header. Then the real point: "Eight points from 30." The verdict on Manchester United's manager is blunt. "Carrick needs to go tonight." The man of the match, apparently, was the crowd.
UnitedViewTV went for dentistry. "We are like a rotten tooth, bro." Root canal is ruled out, and the panel wants the whole thing pulled. The defending gets the line that will sting most: "These men are doing Sunday league defending." Seeing Omar Berrada and Jason Wilcox up and celebrating the equaliser did not calm the room down.
The Dalot problem and the manager problem
RantsNBants will not let the players take the whole rap. Diogo Dalot was beaten for the first goal, and he also gave away the McGinn penalty. But the argument is about set-up: "Your manager is supposed to set you up in a way to minimize these mistakes." The harshest bit is about how United look to other teams: "so easy to play against, it's laughable".
Michael Carrick told the BBC: "In the end, we could have even won it." He is technically right, which is the most United thing about the whole evening.
Villa find a new way to lose at Old Trafford
Over at Aston Villa, the mood is worse, because Villa had the game won twice. The Villa Park Podcast says Villa "snatched the draw from the jaws of victory", and on letting in two goals after the 92nd minute is clear: "It's absolutely unforgivable." The opening line goes further, with a thought plenty of Villa fans will have had on the way home: "We will never beat Man United with Unai Emery as our manager."
Justin Talks Villa sounds like someone who knew this was coming and still can't believe it. "Utter utter disaster." There was no peeking at the league table before full time, out of pure Old Trafford trauma, and rightly so. The keeper gets named too: "Suzuki at fault again."
The view from the away end
Villa On Tour filmed the whole day, from a pub by the Quays to the full-time slump. The verdict is the best summary anyone managed: "It was just the most Aston Villa ending I've ever seen to any football match." Eight goals, and the read was simple. "Feels like a loss."
A draw that settles nothing
Villa threw away two wins in one afternoon. United got a point that UnitedStand thinks will save the manager it wants gone. Dorgu said afterwards he did not feel happy, and he scored the goal. Both clubs now have a two-week international break to stew on it.